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Varas-saaren takana hattulanselällä poransaaren vastapäätä jäätä noin 13-23 cm. Jäätä 15-26 moran kierrosta. Terästä muutama sentti pohjalla ja loput harmaata jäätä. Virtaukset kasvaa. Poransaaren kärjessä on valkea merkkki, sen edustalla matalikko, merkin oikealla puolen iso ruskeahko kohta jäässä, siinä tod. näk uittaa itsensä, jos menee kävelemään. Tästä hitusen kirstulaa kohti 3 metrin viivan tuntumassa jäätä 15-18 cm, eli virtaus vaikuttaa molemmin puolin. Ei enää ole kovin paljon peliaikaa, jos meinaa vielä ylittää salmialueen varassaaresta eerolan puolelle/poransaaren kärjen tuntumaan. Ensi viikon lopulla kandee olla tosi varovainen, vaikka yöpakkasta on luvassa, niin virtaukset voimistuu koko ajan. Kannattaa nytkin olla jo varovainen ja katsoa jäästä noita tosi tummia tai ruskeita kohtia, kuten poransaaren kärjen lähellä. Hattulanselän keskikarin kivet ovat selvästi näkyvissä, joten vesi taitaa olla aika matalalla vanajaveden alueeella.
Poransaaren lahdella jäätä reilusti noin 40 cm, noin 100-150 metriä rannasta. Eerolan rannasta/ uimarannasta vinosittain kohti kalliosaaren kärkeä noin 200 metriä jäätä, noin 32 cm, paikassa ei pitäisi virrata, joten tälläkin alueella epätasaista jäätymistä, 40 cm alueelle matkaa noin 250-300 metriä. Poransaaren lahden pohjukassa pilkitään pitkään.
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Vanajanselän alueella esim. petäys, tyrväntö, leppäluoto, retula, hirvisaari lammassaari, iso-ja pieni vähänen,hamarin kari noin 35 cm keskimäärin jäätä, olivat ajelleet autolla lammassaaren ja retulan välistä siitä sitten eteenpäin selälle. Petäyksen ja lammassaaren välinen salmi on tunnettu virtapaikka, sitä kannattaa varoa automobiililla ja sitten kun kevät etenee, niin jalkamiehenkin pitää olla varuillaan.
jää ei ole kauttaaltaan terästä, tuntuu aika pehmeältä ja jonkin verran on jäätynyttä kohvajäätä. Kuitenkin sen verran jäätä on, että uskalsivat autolla ajaa. Eiköhän vielä jalkamiestä muutaman viikon kanna turvallisesti, riippuu keleistä paljon, miten nopeasti puikkoontuminen alkaa. Lumi painui alas, satoi vettä ja räntää vkoloppuna. Yöpakkaset jatkaa kautta.
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Tokesuunlahdella ja etu-ja takahorkan saarien edessä jäätä 45 cm, moran kierre meni kokonaan, tolppakarilla ja pienen leppäluodon edessä Tyrvännön puolella heikompaa, noin kymmenen senttiä vähemmän.
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Kävin viime viikon perjantaina iltapilkillä klo 16.45-18.15 kirstulan kartanon saunamökkien kohdalla, jäätä noin 250 metriä ennen vihreätä reimaa noin 35 cm, sitten tipahti 32, 30 cm, 27 cm, pyörähdin vihreän reiman takana, noin 170 metriä rannasta. Jäätä oli 23 cm viisi metriä reiman takana ja noin kuusi metriä eteenpäin jäätä 16 cm. Siimat liikkui sivulle, kova virtaus on jään alla. Oli vanhoja reikiä alueella. En lähtenyt pidemmälle haahuilemaan, koska jää tuossa paikassa vaihtelee todella paljon. Vanhoja reikiä alueella oli, joten oli pilkillä käyty. Ekaa kertaa kävin ja toista kertaa en mene. Ei kannata lähtee uittamaan itseään, virtaus voi olla niin kova, vie jopa jään alle.
Jään rakenne on aika huonoa, terästä ei ole juurikaan.

Kävin sitten eilen kävelemässä alueella, pysyttelin noin 100 metriä vihreän reiman takana, vahvemman jään alueella. Vihreästä reimasta noin 30 metrin pästä lähti iso railo, meni miltei rantaan, jätin 60 metriä väliä railoon. Kirstulansalmesta tuleva virtaukset, on tummaa todella isolta alalta toisen vihreän reiman ympärilä. Tekosaarten puolella oli 3 pilkkijää ja vanha kylänlahdella 3 pilkkijää myös. Muutama vuosi sitten virtaukset olivat muuttunut niin paljon, että virtaus meni pitkin kirstulan rantaa, tänä vuonna menee "normaalisti", tekee koukkauksen metsäkylän lahdella ja jatkaa pitkin laivaväylää, jakaantuu sitten keskikarin vieressä ja jatkaa sitten varas-saaren taakse ja poransaaren kärkeen, alueelle tulee iso pyörre, jossa virta vaikuttaa.
Virtaukset tulevat kasvamaan vaudila ja pystyy vielä varmaan hattulanselän ylittämään Katinalanlahdelta pekolan puolen rantaan. Varras-saaren takana poransaarta vastapäätä, jää rupeaa hupenemaan vauhdilla.
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Leppäluodossa tuntumassa sunnuntaina jäätä oli 29 kutostuuman moran kierrosta, vittiänlahdelta 200 metriä selälle päin. Olisko siinä 26-27 cm jäätä. Leppäluodossa on yleensä paremmat jäät kuin vanajanselällä, mutta tänä vuonna on toistepäin, toisella puolella vanajaa on tällä kertaa paremmat jäät.
Eilinen vesisade ei tehnyt hyvää jäille, vettä tuli kunnolla ja oli reilusti plussalla ja muutenkin on tällä viikolla reilusti plussalla. Tänään voisi yrittää vielä, mutta pääsee vasta lähtemään klo 16 jälkeen jäille. Meneekö tuohon läheiselle Hattulanselälle vai ajeleeko iltapilkille Leppäluotoon tai toiselle puolelle Hirvisaareen vai Hamarinkarille. Ajamisessa menee kuitenkin parikymmentä minuuttia+ kävelyt päälle. Kun tulee pääsiäisen reissusta, jos meinaa vielä vanajalla käydä ensi viiikolla iltapilkillä, niin pitää tarkasti valita kohde minne menee pilkilel ja valita kohde, missä tietää olevan jäätä., tokesuunlahti voisi olla yksi vaihtoehto. Rannat rupee sulamaan ja rannoista ei pääse välttämättä jäälle, vaikka selämpänä kestäisi.
Pitää sitten pääsiäisen reissusta palattua laittaa soittokierros päälle ja kysellä jään paksuuksista, jos näyttää siltä, että ei kannata enää jäille Hämeenlinnan/ vanajaveden ja vanajajanselän seutuville jäälle suunnata, niin pakkaa pilkkivehkeet naftaliiniin.
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Torstaina lähdin reissuun ja silloin olisi päässyt vielä turvallisesti Herniäisiin ja Katinalanlahdelle pilkille. Tänään tuli reissusta ja kävin katsastamassa Herniäisissä tilanteen. Ei kannata mennä enää. Hattulanselkä on isolta alalta auki ja varassaaren takaa täysin auki. Ilmeisesti Lempäälän suunnalta juoksutetaan vettä, niin virtaus on kova ja näkyy jäätilanteessa. Noppeesti tilanne muuttui

Noin viikko niin Hattulanselkä on vapaa täysin jäistä. Voisi vielä kokeilla käydä isolla vanajalla, mutta taidan laittaa pilkkivehkeet naftaliiniin, ei kannata riskejä ottaa.

Pääsiäisenä lauantaina käytiin etelä-kallavedellä konttikiven matalikolla ja läheisillä luodoilla. Konttikiven matalikon tuntumassa oli isohkoja vettyneitä alueita, jossa oli 20 cm täysin pehmeätä jäätä, vettä paljon välissä ja sitten 30 cm pehmeätä jäätä.
Säyneensalon vierustasta, mihin tulee jäätie vahvimmillaan oli reilu 50 cm ja heikoimmillaan 45 cm, jää oli aika pehmeätä ja eikä terästä juurikaann ollut. Sielläkin jää rupeaa hupenemaan ja tämänpäiväinen vesisade syönyt jäätä. Nopeasti nuo kallavedenkin jäät heikkenevät.
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Hattulanselän keskikarilta vastapuolen rantaan on 400 metrin kaistale avovettä, varassaaren ja pekolan väli on täysin auki, varasaaresta eteenpäin kohti mierolaan täysin auki. Olisko Hattulanselkä kokonaisuudessan auki ensi viikon alkuun mennessä ja tuosta pari viikkoa, niin vanajanselkä on auki kokonaisuudessaan.
Rauttuunselällä olivat käyneet vielä viime viikonloppuna, eikä sinnekään ole varmaan enää mitään asiaa. Pilkkikausi Hämeenlinnan lähialueilla ja vanajanselän alueella alkaa olla taputeltu. Jos joku vielä menee vanajalle pilkille, niin pelastautumispuku päälle ja jäänaskalit kaulaan.
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Eipä tarvitse odottaa ensi viikon alkuun mennessä. Kova tuuli ja vesisade aukaisi hattulanselän. Ensi viikon alkuun mennessä poransaaren lahdeltakin jäät on huvennut, joten pääsee laskemaan veneitä.
Kallavedelläkin taitaa tämän viikonlopun jälkeen olla taputeltu jääkausi, on sielläkin sadellut ja tuullut pirusti säätiedotuksen mukaan. Jäät muuttuu arvaamattomiksi liikkua, rannat rupeaa aukeamaan ja jää puikkoontuu vauhdilla.
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